Archive for January, 2009

OFF-TOPIC: Double Dialing Speed of Modems

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Sat Dec 20 23:21:14 1997
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>I know this is off-topic, but for those of us who use modems as
>our means of connection to the Internet, the following suggestion
>concerning modem initialization strings has proved useful to me.
>
>If you have a touch tone phone, you can put the S11=50 parameter in your
>modem initialization string to double the speed of dialing. Try and see if
>it works on your phone system. For example, my modem initialization
>string before I added the S11 parameter read AT&F&C1&D2X4. After I
>added the S11 parameter, it read AT&F&C1&D2X4 S11=50. I hope that
>someone else can benefit from this tip like I have.
>
>Happy holidays!!!
>
>Edward Wittenberg
>ewitten507@aol.com

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“Smokey” Stover

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Thu Dec 18 22:54:55 1997
>Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 00:53:04 -0500
>From: Brooks A Rowlett
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>On one of the mailing lists I am on there was a mention, in a thread on
>nicknames in maritime services, of a comic strip with a character called
>”Smokey” Stover.This prompted me to generate the following:
>
>The name “Smokey” Stover is of some minor note in USN and cinema
>history. In 1943 a documentary was made about brand new ESSEX class
>carrier, CV-10 USS YORKTOWN. Lt Elisha Terril Stover acquired the
>nickname “Smokey” probably from the source cited. He flew Wildcats off
>USS HORNET at Midway, and wound up on Guadalcanal after HORNET (CV-8)
>was sunk at Santa Cruz Oct 42. After interesting experiences on the
>’canal, Stover returned home to become the naval aviator assigned to
>the new Combat Information Center (CIC) on the new carrier YORKTOWN.
>He is seen and introduced in this role in the film THE FIGHTING LADY
>(not to be confused with the Korean War MEN OF THE FIGHTING LADY which
>seems to be a rip-off of BRIDGES OF TOKO-RI). He had begged all along
>to be returned to the iar, and was eventually re-assigned to Fighting 5
>(VF-5) the Hellcat squadron in YORKTOWN’s air wing. A very popular
>officer, he was forced to bail out of his plane during the big strike
>on Truk, Feb 44. He was reported as missing in action, but was believed
>to have drifted ashore at this major Japanese base.
>
>Squadronmate Dick Newhafer composed a final tribute that evening:
>The call came
> On metal-fashioned wings
>And echoed til it spent;
> He bade farewell
>To all the well-loved things
> And then he went.
>A fresh wind
> Bore him away tonight,
>The world is sad,
> He gave his mirth
>For all the world’s delight,
> T’was all he had
>
>Not great, but as good a farewell as any.
>
>Postwar it was learned that of 7 downed US aviators who came ashore,
>all were beaten and tortured by their captors. Then , the day after the
>raids ceased, all were marched to the beach and beheaded with swords.
>
>The above is from THE FIGHTING LADY (book) by Clark G Reynolds. A
>wartime biography of this Junior USN naval was published, called THE
>STORY OF SMOKEY STOVER. Just another casualty in some ways, but not a
>faceless or nameless one thanks to his friends and the whims of fate and
>documentaries.
>
>-Brooks A Rowlett

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Re[2]: Letow Schnapps

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Thu Dec 18 21:34:30 1997
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> > I suspect they were “good capitalists” with their license revenues
> > waiting for them after the war. So that they had funds on hand to get
> > back to work with after the inevitable departure of the Austrian
> > Corporal.
> >
> > One clarification: Cinchona may be/have been raised in Indonesia, but
> > its original source is South America.
> >
> > I have heard of this Japanese controlled source problem before. But
> > what about the original source? Did they, maybe, use Atabrine just
> > ’cause it was cheaper? Or maybe the South American supply is/was not
> > adequate to satisfy the demand?
> >
> > Bill Riddle
> >
>You’re right of course. Quinine is arguably the oldest significant medicinal
>herb that actually works and dates from the early Spanish Empire. The
>appropriate volume in the series of the Army’s medical history details the
>development of atabrine industry by US. They cited lack of supply – it may
>well be that it had become a plantation crop by the 20th Century and
>something that you cannot create quickly. The sheer numbers of tablets were
>staggering. Several vets told me that quinine (some was around early in the
>war) had uncomfortable side effects – especially a ringing in the ears. BTW:
>atabrine’s side effects were NOT well known at the time it was being “field
>tested” on US and allied troops (medical supplies were high on the Lend
>Lease priority list). Rumors concerning sterility and it’s known tendency to
>yellow the skin caused customer resistence at first. Officers were ordered
>to force men to take it at mess. The reality of malaria attacks overcame
>this barrier and the stuff was accepted readily soon enough. Guess no harm
>was done. Either that or post WWII lawyers had not yet honed their art to
>today’s degree.
>Eric Bergerud, 531 Kains Ave, Albany CA 94706, 510-525-0930

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African Queen

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Wed Dec 17 23:01:14 1997
>Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 00:05:39 -0800
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>John Forester wove a web:
>
>(snipped, an anecdote almost as attention-maintaining as the
>magnificently simple tales his father told)
>
>I remember first reading (actually, trying to read) the three in one
>Captain Hornblower at about age six, and in the years of my childhood I
>continued to devour every available bit and weeviled-biscuit of CSF. I
>recall the deep disgust with which I exited my first viewing of the
>movie Hornblower. How could CSF have allowed such a travesty? How
>could Gregory Peck, the ideal selection for the part, assist in its
>perpetration? That was before I understood that authors had little say
>in screen adaptations and story lines.
>
>And now, fortunate association with this list has once more brought the
>author to life in the vivid anecdotes of his son. CSF lives in them,
>and his ships, great and small, are recommisioned by them. I sleep
>again in Hornblower’s cabin, and clear is the sound of the officer of
>the watch’s heels on the deck above.
>
>Thank you, John Forester, for sharing with us both the pleasure and a
>bit of the pain of having known him. May his tales live on to keep
>other little boys’ bedsight lights on late for years to come.
>–
>”A little learning is a dangerous thing,
> But more is inevitably catastrophic!”
>

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Re[2]: Letow Schnapps

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Wed Dec 17 14:59:47 1997
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>At 01:45 PM 12/17/97 GMT, Bill Riddle wrote:
> > I suspect they were “good capitalists” with their license revenues
> > waiting for them after the war. So that they had funds on hand to get
> > back to work with after the inevitable departure of the Austrian
> > Corporal.
>
>
>Oh, NO! ALL German assets, including patents, copyrights, and trade-marks,
>were seized by the US government in early 1942. They were administered by
>the US Alien Properties Office and were auctioned off in the ’50’s. There
>are some grand tales as to how Leitz regained control of their American
>agency and of the poor relations between Carl Zeiss and its American agency
>in the late 1940’s and early 1950’s (you see, the American agency head, Dr
>Bauer, one of the inventors of lens coatings, insisted on doing business
>with those EAST German guys … )
>
>If any royalties were paid, they were paid to the US Government. The
>German companies would not have gotten a dime.
>
>Marc
>
>
>msmall@roanoke.infi.net FAX: +540/343-7315
>Cha robh bas fir gun ghras fir!

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African Queen

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Wed Dec 17 11:36:11 1997
>From: “John Forester”
>To:
>Subject: Re: African Queen
>Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:15:00 -0800
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> Well, the same old story. Read the book before seeing the > film, which has
>an incredible ending that horrified CSF. The Konigin Luise is described as
>a gunboat, “in appearance just like a white-painted Thames tug.” However,
>she is also described as “The Konigen Luise had not really been designed as
>a fighting ship; her engines and boilers were above water line instead of
>being far below under a protective deck.” In response to the initial
>attack, “The three-pounder shells began to burst about the Konigin Luise’s
>stern. At first they merely blew holes in the thin plating, … ” Much
>earlier, her building had been described. “She had been brought up from the
>coast, overland, in sections, eight years before. The country had been
>swept for bearers and workmen then as now, for there had been roads to hack
>through the forest, and enormous burdens to be carried. The Konigin Luise’s
>boiler needed to be transported in one piece, and every furlong of its
>transport had cost the life of a man in the forest.”
>
> I suggest that she did not look like a Thames tug, with its > engines deep
>inside, but more like an American river steamer, probably, than like a
>European river steamer, because the American design was better suited to
>shallow water. Probably, the Germans used as much locally available wood as
>possible in her construction, rather than steel plate carried overland,
>thin or not. Anybody know the facts about the actual gunboat that the
>Germans had on Lake Tanganyika?
>
> During the filming, CSF liked what he had seen. In my book I write:
>”Shooting was complete in 1951 and my father told me his reaction to the
>film as far as it had progressed. ‘I’ve seen some of the rushes of The
>African Queen and I’m as pleased as everybody else by Bogart’s acting.
>Seeing him so good has taken quite a load off my mind, for I was genuinely
>worried.’
>
> “His statement contrasts against his opinion of the film, > as written to
>Frances [Phillips, editor of William Morrow & Co., his mistress and
>literary advisor]. ‘Anyway I went down to Hollywood by the night train last
>Saturday and went to the preview of The African Queen on the night of the
>23rd. There was the hell of a party afterwards. It’s hard to be definite
>about the film. It’s a fine corpse, so to speak, except for the end, where
>corruption has already set in so that it stinks. Up to the end they
>followed the book quite slavishly, even in minute detail, so that it’s
>exactly like the book except that it it’s as dead as mutton, and I can’t
>think why — the humour is quite good, and the love story is quite
>convincing, and Bogart and Hepburn do real good jobs, but the soul of the
>thing just isn’t there — but other people may not notice its absence. …
>God knows why the picture is a decaying corpse, but I think it is.'”
>
> Of course, the part about Allnutt holding the ends of the > shot-through
>main steam line together with his hands wrapped in cloths, as the African
>Queen ran past the German fort, was not in the book, either. Even CSF must
>have been appalled at that, although he didn’t mention it.
>
> And, of course, CSF had told me, when the contract was > signed, that when
>the picture was over the boat was mine. That was in the contract, so he
>said. Later he told me that he was very sorry, but they had had to sink
>the African Queen, just like in the book, so she could not be given to me.
>When the film was released, I was in the USN and missed it, and I didn’t
>see it for quite some time (no video tapes in those days). Frankly, I was
>skeptical, but I still believed in him. When I first watched the film, I
>was more concerned about the sinking of the boat than anything else in it,
>and I decided that the sinking was miniature model stuff and that if I had
>been the director I would not have risked losing my prime prop just to have
>a piece of wreckage, that would be much easier faked, for the Konigin Luise
>to collide with. However, I had my own real-life difficulties to deal with
>at that time, rather than trying to pursue the question of whether or not
>my father had deliberately lied to me, which lay latent for decades.
>
>John Forester 408-734-9426
>forester@johnforester.com 726 Madrone Ave
>http://www.johnforester.com Sunnyvale, CA 94086-3041

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African Queen

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Tue Dec 16 20:46:05 1997
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>
>In a message dated 12/16/1997 10:13:51 PM, you wrote:
>
>Hepburn classic. >>
>
>Also a nice work of fiction. However, I never did figure out how the Germans
>got a cruiser on Lake Tanganyika.
>
>Mark

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Naval history quiz winners

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Mon Dec 15 11:53:32 1997
>Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 10:51:34 -0800
>From: Mike Potter
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>21-gun salutes to Brooks Rowlett and Steve Alvin!
>19-gun salute to Timothy Francis!
>All are US participants although both actions involved British and
>German units.
>
>1. Identify the first major surface warship to be sunk in combat from
>damage inflicted by hostile air attack:
>
> German light cruiser Kõnigsberg (L 1927) was sunk in April 1940 at
> Bergen, Norway, by multiple hits and near misses from 500lb bombs
> dropped by RN dive bombers. Aircraft sank smaller warships in China
> and Poland before this but Kõnigsberg was much larger and was armed
> and prepared to fight back.
>
>2. Identify the first major surface warship to be sunk in a naval action
>in which the victor used aircraft for gunfire spotting:
>
> German light cruiser Kõnigsberg (L 1905) was destroyed in July 1915
> in the Rufiji River delta, Tanzania (then German East Africa), by
> indirect fire from RN river monitors Mersey and Severn using 2
> (soon reduced to 1) spotter aircraft to call corrections.
>
>3. Before they were sunk, what did the victim warships from these
>actions have in common?
>
> To quote Brooks:
> > From the minimalist point of view, I suspect all three questions can
> > be answered with : “The name of the ship was KONIGSBERG”
> And both were light cruisers, obviously both were German. Probably
> the 1940 victim commemorated her 1915 predecessor, as did another
> WW 1 light cruiser.
>
>I’ll post separately a short account of the loss of the first
>Kõnigsberg, the result of a 10-month campaign that isn’t well known in
>naval history. Possibly another “first” was that this Kõnigsberg shot
>down a spotter, which could be the first surface-to-air kill in naval
>history.
>
>–
>Michael C. Potter, Mgr, TelCo/Govt Programs mike.potter@artecon.com
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History

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Mon Dec 15 10:56:33 1997
>From: Brooks Rowlett
>Subject: Re: History
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>Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:54:23 -0500 (EST)
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>Tom Robison asked about the freighter hit by a Harpoon. IIRC, the
>freighter wandered into the exercise area, and the surveillance measures
>intended to prevent firing when there was a vessel or aircraft at risk in
>such an area, failed to detect it. Oops…… I do not remember if the
>aircraft was actually operating from a carrier at the time.
>
>-Brooks

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Early postwar Japan

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Mon Dec 15 07:35:58 1997
>From: “John Forester”
>To:
>Subject: Early postwar Japan
>Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 21:47:57 -0800
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> As I wrote earlier, my father was probably the first person > of the victors
>who was allowed to leave the Tokyo-Yokohama area. When he visited the
>country, it was only two weeks or so after the surrender, and there hadn’t
>really been sufficient time for the Japanese as a whole to appreciate the
>general decency with which they were being treated. I attribute the
>happiness of my father’s tour to something more than that, earlier than
>that, and I suspect that part of it was the Emperor’s order to surrender
>quietly.
>
>John Forester 408-734-9426
>forester@johnforester.com 726 Madrone Ave
>http://www.johnforester.com Sunnyvale, CA 94086-3041

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