Archive for January, 2009

BB-38 (fwd)

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Tue Oct 28 14:13:14 1997
>Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:07:37 -0500 (EST)
>From: MEMullen@aol.com
>To: mahan@microworks.net
>Subject: Re: BB-38 (fwd)
>Precendence: bulk
>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
>Reply-To: mahan@microworks.net
>
>In a message dated 97-10-28 13:29:04 EST,Tim Lanzendoerfer forwards:
>
>> > I am also looking for a William Bonneau who was born somewhere between
>1926
> >>
>I tried www.four11.com telephone number search and found six or eight william
>bonneau’s. Might try there.
>
>Mike Mullen

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Arsenal Ship program officially dead

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Wed Oct 29 00:35:11 1997
>Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 02:35:22 -0600
>From: Brooks A Rowlett
>Organization: None whatsoever
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
>To: “C. Patrick Hreachmack” ,
> “Harpoon (Stanford list)” ,
> HULL ,
> Mahan Naval History Mailing List
>Subject: Arsenal Ship program officially dead
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>
>See the following Philadelphia Enquirer news story on line;
>
>http://www.phillynews.com:80/inquirer/97/Oct/26/national/NAVY26.htm
>
>(Make sure you get the full URL to enter, in case the line has wrapped
>in your mail window)

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Colombian Marines and River gunboats

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Wed Oct 29 00:36:25 1997
>Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 02:36:52 -0600
>From: Brooks A Rowlett
>Organization: None whatsoever
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
>To: Andrew Toppan ,
> “C. Patrick Hreachmack” ,
> Tony Teal , MARHST
>CC: Mahan Naval History Mailing List
>Subject: Colombian Marines and River gunboats
>Precendence: bulk
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>
>For a story that turns out to be amusing but could have been a small
>tragedy:
>
>http://my.excite.com/News/971027/17.ODD-FLAG.html

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book “Hostile Waters”

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Wed Oct 29 09:57:05 1997
>Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:54:33 -0800
>From: Mike Potter
>Organization: Artecon, Inc.
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I)
>To: mahan@microworks.net
>Subject: Re: book “Hostile Waters”
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>
> > A few weeks ago there was a statement in the news, issued by an
> > admiral, denouncing the book … Anyone have that admiral’s name?
> > Anyone have the details of his statement?
>
>Bill, this might refer to the review in October 1997 USNI Proceedings.
>
>–
>Michael C Potter Capt SC USNR mike.potter@artecon.com
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E-News, Oct. 29, 1997

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Wed Oct 29 12:46:30 1997
>X-Sender: tcrobi@pophost.fw.hac.com
>Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 14:44:17 -0500
>To: aircraft@idsi.net, mahan@microwrks.com
>From: Tom Robison
>Subject: E-News, Oct. 29, 1997
>Precendence: bulk
>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
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>
>Following is from an in-house newsletter… not sure of actual sources.
>
>=============
>
> > NAVY ACCELERATES F-14 RETIREMENT — The U.S. Navy has decided to
> > shave three years off the projected service life of its F-14 strike
> > fighters, retiring the last of the planes in 2007.
> > ————
> > GEN. JUMPER REPLACES RYAN AT USAFE — Lt. Gen. John Jumper has been
> > named to replace Gen. Michael Ryan, the new Chief of Staff of the
> > U.S. Air Force, as chief of U.S. Air Forces Europe and NATO’s Air
> > Forces Central Europe, the Pentagon announced. Jumper had been
> > deputy chief of staff for air and space operations. That post will
> > go to Lt. Gen. Patrick K. Gamble, who is the commander of Alaskan
> > Command. Gamble will be replaced by Lt. Gen. David McCloud, now
> > director of the Joint Staff’s force structure, resources and
> > assessment division. Lt. Gen. Frank Campbell, commander of the
> > Twelfth Air Force, will replace McCloud, and Maj. Gen. Lansford E.
> > Trapp, the AF’s director for legislative liaison, will take over
> > command of the Twelfth Air Force. (Aerospace Daily)
> > ————
> > HOUSE PASSES $268B DEFENSE BILL —
> > WASHINGTON — The House Tuesday voted 286-123 to approve a $268
> > billion defense authorization bill despite a White House veto threat
> > and a possible Senate filibuster.
> >
> > The Senate had planned to take up the bill Tuesday, but the prospect
> > of a filibuster caused Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., to put off
> > the measure until today.
> >
> > The Clinton administration and a handful of senators object to a
> > compromise provision that would continue to protect the military bases
> > that employ thousands of workers doing billions of dollars in
> > maintenance and repair jobs on virtually everything the military uses.
> >
> > Lawmakers said they had made major concessions toward the
> > administration’s position — allowing private contractors to compete
> > for more of the maintenance work than is allowed under current law –
> > and most of them want the bill to include a provision upholding the
> > 1995 closure of Kelly Air Force Base in San Antonio and McClellan Air
> > Force Base in Sacramento.
> >
> > As passed by the House, the defense bill rejects the “privitization in
> > place” of Kelly and McClellan that Clinton proposed and says that
> > nonessential defense maintenance work must be opened up to competition
> > from public and private bidders.
> >
> > The senators from Texas and California were promising to use every
> > legislative tactic at their disposal to thwart Senate consideration of
> > the bill.
> >
> > In all, the $268.2 billion bill represents an increase of $2.6 billion
> > over Clinton’s request for the fiscal year that began Oct. 1, and an
> > increase of just over $4 billion compared with last year’s defense
> > spending level.
> >
> > Rep. Floyd Spence, R-S.C., chairman of the House National Security
> > Committee, said the bill represented the best compromise lawmakers
> > could come up with.
> >
> > “The Cold War is over and most people think the threat of war has been
> > removed,” Spence said. “But I’m here to tell you that it’s not a
> > matter of if there’s going to be a war, but where and when.”
> >
> > Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., chairman of the House National Security
> > weapons procurement subcommittee, conceded that the debate was not
> > merely liberal vs. conservative. Hunter said the pressure to balance
> > the budget, a top Republican priority, had forced defense advocates to
> > accept lower levels of Pentagon spending.
> >
> > “We are at what I would call the bottom of a dangerous downswing,”
> > Hunter said. “I think we have been too constrained by the budget. I
> > think we’re going to pay for that in future conflicts.”
> > ————
>
>
>Tom Robison, tcrobi@most.fw.hac.com
>Airborne Communications Systems
>Hughes Defense Communications,
>1010 Production Rd.
>Fort Wayne, IN 46808
>
>Any opinions expressed herein are mine alone, and do not reflect
>the views or opinions of Hughes Defense Communications, Hughes
>Aircraft Corp., Hughes Electronics Corp., General Motors Corp.,
>Raytheon Corp., God, or my wife.

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Thanks

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Thu Oct 30 06:57:45 1997
>Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:14:13 +0200
>To: mahan@microwrks.com, wwii-l@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu, >marhst-l@post.queensu.ca
>Subject: Thanks
>X-Mailer: T-Online eMail 2.0
>X-Sender: 0611603955-0001@t-online.de (Silvia Lanzendoerfer)
>From: BWV_WIESBADEN@t-online.de (Tim Lanzendoerfer)
>Precendence: bulk
>Sender: mahan-owner@microworks.net
>Reply-To: mahan@microworks.net
>
>All who helped with the BB-38 request, thanks for your help.
>
>Tim
>
>Tim Lanzendoerfer | “I have just taken on a great
>Amateur Naval Historian | responsibility. I will do my
>Email: BWV_Wiesbaden@t-online.de | utmost to meet it” – Nimitz
>—————————————————————–
> The United States Navy in the Pacific War 1941 – 1945
> http://www.microworks.net/pacific
> The ships, the men, the battles
>—————————————————————–

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World Maritime News – 24 Oct., 1997 – excerpts

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Thu Oct 30 15:35:08 1997
>Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:33:12 -0800
>From: Mike Potter
>Organization: Artecon, Inc.
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I)
>To: mahan@microworks.net
>Subject: World Maritime News – 24 Oct., 1997 – excerpts
>Precendence: bulk
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>
>World Maritime News – 24 Oct., 1997
>———————————–
>
>Kvaerner to build ships at former Philadelphia Naval Shipyard
>
> On 21 Oct., Kvaerner A.S.A. signed a memorandum under which it
>agreed in principle to build and operate a shipbuilding facility at the
>former Philadelphia Naval Shipyard. It would be named Kvaerner
>Philadelphia Shipyard. Details still need to be negotiated before a
>formal contract is made. The agreement included public investment of
>U.S.$399 million including U.S.$182 from Pennsylvania for renovating the
>yard, U.S.$65 million from the Delaware River Port Authority, U.S.$49
>million from Philadelphia and U.S.$50 million in federal funding. The
>state and city will also loan Kvaerner U.S.$30 million at a favorable
>interest rate. The shipyard will be publicly owned and operated by
>Kvaerner under a 99-year deal. In addition, CSX Corp. and Norfolk
>Southern Corp. are creating a U.S.$75 million economic development fund
>which will be coordinated by the office of Pennsylvania’s governor and
>the Pennsylvania Department of Community and Economic Development. Of
>this, U.S.$20 million will be spent on the shipyard. Kvaerner will
>invest U.S.$165 million over 15 years with U.S.$45 million in the first
>five; buy the first three containerships built at cost, likely U.S.$80
>million; guarantee minimum job levels of 700 people at the end of five
>years and at least 500 more 10 years after that; and relocate its North
>American headquarters to Philadelphia. The yard may build tankers and
>passenger ships as well and will build as many as nine ships in the
>first five years. Construction of the first ship is expected to begin in
>summer with completion in 2000. Kvaerner plans to use two dry docks on
>at least 36 hectares/90 acres.
>
>Sri Lanka Navy attack kills more than 100
>
> Sri Lanka Navy vessels attacked boats of the Liberation Tigers of
>Tamil Eelam on 19 Oct. off northeastern Sri Lanka, killing more than 100
>people. Seven boats were sunk in a five hour battle 272 kilometers/170
>miles northeast of the capital, Colombo.
>
>Engineer of vessel killed in pirate attack at Manila…
>
> Pirates attacked the Yi He (Chinese-registry 25,078-dwt
>containership built in 1968, operated by COSCO Container Lines) shortly
>after it arrived 17 Oct. at Manila, the Philippines. The engineer was
>killed when he fought back. The ship, with 30 crew, arrived from Hong
>Kong before dawn and anchored off the main harbor. Four pirates boarded
>from a motorboat.
>
>…Containership docked in Rio de Janeiro boarded by pirates
>
> Pirates with scuba gear and submachine guns boarded the Zim
>Montevideo (Antigua-registry 22,525-dwt containership built in 1994,
>operated by Hermann Buss GmbH & Cie.) on early 21 Oct. at Rio de
>Janeiro, Brazil. As many as 15 people in small craft used ropes to scale
>the hull of the ship as it was docked in Guanabara Bay. They reportedly
>stole electronic equipment from a container.
>
>Canadian warship commander relieved
>
> The commanding officer of the Canadian Maritime Command’s
>Halifax-class Frigate H.M.C.S. Calgary (FFH 335) was relieved of command
>18 Oct. Cmdr. Robert Bush, 42, is being investigated by two military
>officers. He assumed command of the ship in July 1996. On 22 Oct., Bush
>released a public letter in which he admitted drinking less than six
>hours before sailing the warship from Campbell River, British Columbia,
>at 0430 8 July. He apologized and said he would seek professional help.
>Regulations bar any crewmember from drinking alcohol within six hours of
>standing a watch. Bush is now serving in Esquimalt, British Columbia.
>
>Albanian People’s Navy vessel sunk in collision has been raised
>
> An Albanian People’s Navy vessel carrying Albanian migrants to
>Italy that capsized and sank 28 March in the Adriatic Sea has been
>raised and towed to Brindisi, Italy. About 83 people were killed and 34
>were rescued. Many of the survivors said that the ship sank after
>colliding with the Italian Navy Minerva-class Corvette Sibilla (F 558).
>The sunken vessel was reportedly stolen from Sarande, Albania, on 26
>March and then sailed to Vlore, Albania. Survivors said the vessel was
>deiberately rammed, once astern and once on a side. Italy said the
>vessel was evading Italian ships and sailed on a collision course. The
>commanding officer of the Italian ship, Maurizio Laudadio, was relieved
>of his duties 30 March. Eleven bodies have been removed.
>
>–

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Pollards ask Israel to take responsibility

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Thu Oct 30 15:58:40 1997
>Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:57:19 -0800
>From: Mike Potter
>Organization: Artecon, Inc.
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I)
>To: mahan@microworks.net
>Subject: Pollards ask Israel to take responsibility
>Precendence: bulk
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>
>[Suppose the Israeli government takes responsibility for Pollard’s
>actions: would they then find it easier also to take responsibility for
>attacking USS =Liberty= as a known US asset?]
>
>Convicted spy makes plea to Israel
>__________________________________________________________________________
> Copyright © 1997 Nando.net
> Copyright © 1997 The Associated Press
>
> JERUSALEM (October 29, 1997 08:22 a.m. EST http://www.nando.net) —
>Convicted spy Jonathan Pollard asked Israel’s Supreme Court on Wednesday
>to force the government to acknowledge him as its agent, taking
>responsibility for his espionage against America.
> Israeli leaders have maintained that Pollard, a former U.S. Navy
>intelligence analyst, passed secret U.S. military documents to Israel in
>the mid-1980s without official Israeli sanction.
> During Wednesday’s closed-door hearing, a three-judge panel ordered
>the government to grant Pollard’s wife meetings with senior security
>officials during the next two months, then return for another hearing.
> “The government seems to be beginning to realize that it’s got to
>deal with this,” Esther Pollard told reporters outside the court.
> Pollard’s lawyer, Larry Dub, said an Israeli acknowledgment that
>Pollard was an agent could clear the way for his client’s release.
>Pollard has served 13 years of a life term in a U.S. prison.
> “There is a price to be paid for the release of Jonathan Pollard,”
>Dub said. “The first installment on the price is the admission that
>Jonathan Pollard is an agent. The Americans are waiting for the Israelis
>to come clean, and to tell the truth.”
> President Clinton rejected a clemency plea by Pollard in 1996, citing
>the enormity of his crime, his lack of remorse and the damage he caused
>to U.S. security.
> Pollard has complained that Israel abandoned him, and that Israeli
>leaders, including Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, have done nothing
>to press for his release, despite many promises.
> He reiterated the complaints in tape-recorded telephone conversation
>that his wife played back for The Associated Press. In it, Pollard cited
>the prisoner releases with which Israel won the freedom of two Israeli
>agents captured after a bungled attack in Jordan last month.
> Israel “got them out in a couple of days, these guys, these two
>agents. They didn’t have to rot for years in a foreign prison,” Pollard
>said.
>
> AP-ES-10-29-97 0755EST

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I bet you wondered…

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Fri Oct 31 12:38:44 1997
>Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:04:29 +0200
>To: mahan@microwrks.com, wwii-l@listserv.acsu.buffalo.edu, >marhst-l@post.queensu.ca
>Subject: I bet you wondered…
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>
>…when I would come and ask stupid questions again. Well, here I am.
>I was putting some more research into the biographies, and encountered one
>rather strange command which I would like to know about. >Then-Rear-Admiral Jesse
>Bartlett Oldendorf was “Commander all Forces Aruba and Curacao”. Was >that an ASW
>job?
>Second…by chance does anybody know which ship RADM Clark commanded during
>Operation Torch?
>Third, since I will have little time to work on anything (any >private work), I
>could use some help. If anybody has the time and interest to write one or
>however many biographies (or anything else…basically, I’ll take it >all!), I’d
>be very grateful if he/she/it would contact me.
>Fourth (for the WWII-L), I ask you to pardon my off-topic post(s) of late. I
>promise to abstain from that in the future.
>
>Thanks,
>Tim
>
>Tim Lanzendoerfer | “I have just taken on a great
>Amateur Naval Historian | responsibility. I will do my
>Email: BWV_Wiesbaden@t-online.de | utmost to meet it” – Nimitz
>—————————————————————–
> The United States Navy in the Pacific War 1941 – 1945
> http://www.microworks.net/pacific
> The ships, the men, the battles
>—————————————————————–

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_U-505_ needs repairs

Friday, January 2nd, 2009

From Fri Oct 31 20:14:26 1997
>Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 22:14:35 -0600
>From: Brooks A Rowlett
>Organization: None whatsoever
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC)
>To: “C. Patrick Hreachmack” ,
> Greg Dunn , Jon Parshall ,
> Mahan Naval History Mailing List ,
> MARHST ,
> World War II Discussion List ,
> SubWar list
>Subject: _U-505_ needs repairs
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>
>Accoprding to an article in the Chicago SUN-TIMES online, the _U-505_,
>at the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry is in need of repairs.
>Detail are in the article, at:
>
>http://www.suntimes.com:80/output/show1/lead30.htm

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